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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:54 pm 
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Minigin wrote:
yeh sitting around at home all day cooking 2-3 meals per day and caring for a child you presumably care a great deal for would really suck.


I dont think people ever really say that sucks. The problem is that you lose the best years from your career so unless you want to keep rolling out kids you miss out on work life and might regret this a lot later when catching up is difficult (the people who say life experience such as kids matter are retarded, it just shifts your priorities from company to kids. when ppl work overtime to midnight, its not the guys with kids who stay on).

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women who get to do this have it really hard.
off the top of my head i can think of a bunch more examples of sexism against men: nannying / receptionist positions / certain uni courses (engineering) give scholarships and benefits to attract women to their faculty.


one of the absolute biggest ones is custody battles over kids, hardly ever will a guy win. also I lost a physics scholarship once because the other candidate was a woman and "it would look better if she won", despite our scores being equal. that kind of sexism is worse, because if you argue against it it makes you a douche.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:09 pm 
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wait i thought i was unemployed, aspiring to paint houses or work in a saw mill so that i can join the alpha males.

need those low wage physical labor jobs to impress the bitches.








btw on a serious note: secretary work is really good for money if you arnt a pussy and dont give a shit about what fools think. i was getting 22 dollars an hour (but that was mostly because i was casual rather than full time - though when i worked i could get a lot of shifts that other people wanted to get rid of so i ended up being able to work quite a lot) full time gets around 14 an hour however you get worker benefits such as paid leave / hols and cant be fired on the spot for certain things and ofc consistently more hours etc etc.

medical receptionist work is pretty hectic though, patients get really frustrated and everyone deserves to be let in first because their case is more urgent blah blah blah (and the filing is literally hell - we had something like 20-30k individual files). thankfully i have loads of money saved for the time being so i wont be needing to make a return for some time.


overall point: theres a really small % of all receptionists that are male, however there seems to be nothing really stopping men working those jobs other than dated social ideals.


also to highlight this... its actually way more common for me to see a female roadworker now than it is to see a male secretary / receptionist. dunno if other people have noticed the same.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:21 pm 
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Minigin wrote:
also to highlight this... its actually way more common for me to see a female roadworker now than it is to see a male secretary / receptionist. dunno if other people have noticed the same.


cant even remember last time I saw a female road worker. male receptionists are not uncommon though

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:28 pm 
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What do you think of representation though? Quotas for elections, council/cabinet/?? memberships etc. It's the only area where I could arguably see quotas not being completely unnecessary and not overly restrictive, but would much rather see parties etc do it voluntarily - e.g the Green party in Belgium voluntarily puts men and women alternately on their list and I think that's a cool initiative (law only requires the #1 and #2 candidates to be of different genders, and the overall ratio of the list to be 50:50, but doesn't prescribe a zipper pattern like the Groen! have).

And even in this gender to me seems arbitrary, the last time I voted for a woman I did not think "i am voting for a woman"; I was voting for "a member of the academy of sciences with an education of an astrophysicist and plentiful political experience who seems to represent my ideas by promising to achieve x y z", who just happened to be a woman.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:31 pm 
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What do you think of representation though? Quotas for elections, council/cabinet/?? memberships etc. It's the only area where I could arguably see quotas not being completely unnecessary and not overly restrictive, but would much rather see parties etc do it voluntarily - e.g the Green party in Belgium voluntarily puts men and women alternately on their list and I think that's a cool initiative (law only requires the #1 and #2 candidates to be of different genders, and the overall ratio of the list to be 50:50, but doesn't prescribe a zipper pattern like the Groen! have).

And even in this gender to me seems arbitrary, the last time I voted for a woman I did not think "i am voting for a woman"; I was voting for "a member of the academy of sciences with an education of an astrophysicist and plentiful political experience who seems to represent my ideas by promising to achieve x y z", who just happened to be a woman.


I dont see the point. at least in swedish politics the women seem even more retarded than the men (and this is quite an accomplishment tbh). people should get positions based on skills, not whats between their legs

actually for politics I'd argue that anyone who wants to be a politician shouldnt be allowed to, so maybe quotas for ppl who want to be politicians?

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
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imo... the best man wins.


ho ho ho.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
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Nexus Kinnon wrote:
"nigger quotas"

literally

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
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stay at home dads are not looked down upon in denmark, maybe your 2nd rate country needs to grow up ^_^

Same goes for finland.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:27 pm 
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Morel Nova wrote:
also I lost a physics scholarship once because the other candidate was a woman and "it would look better if she won", despite our scores being equal. that kind of sexism is worse, because if you argue against it it makes you a douche.


So that's why you are bitter and hate feminists :chunkymilk:

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:27 pm 
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Sorry to my fellow juntas nexus and nrom but quotas are retarded and perpetuate the perception of skill disparity.

"women are just as good as men this is why we have to guarantee a bunch of spots for them like we do with the handicapped"

Quotas are proposed and voted in for purely political reason. The paper about India does not apply to 2012 first world sorry.

Anyways would be nice to hear Laedys opinion

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