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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:10 am 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19682049
Here's some more stuff about the situation they're in that you can ignore in favour of pretending this is about ipods.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:15 am 
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Jesus christ Gobbins you are completely out of touch with the world, are you living in a lab or something?

People riot because they are desperate. They cannot feed their families, are not being paid etc. it's not "WE WANT IPODS FOR FREE".


Me out of touch?? Motherfucker do you think I decided to freeze my wop ass in the north because Italy was so full of jobs and riches? Wait maybe I just hated the food and dreamed of feasting on herring and rotten fish.

I *know* the situation, Nobody is starving. Nobody is fucking starving you entitled lying bitch. People are mad because their privileged way of life is going away. And it is going away because the rest of the world is catching up.

We europeans have had 70 years of peace and technological dominance compared to most of the world. What did we do with it? We started handing out free shit for votes. When huge debts were accumulated did anybody say anything? Nope, lets vote for some more free shit. You keep getting mad at banks. Big bad banks lent us the money. The money that paid for healthcare and pensions. "But but they are only protecting the banks!!" No they are protecting our reputation so that we can keep borrowing money in the future without having to pay it an exorbitant price. And without that borrowed money you can forget your precious way of life.

Anyways we had our good times post WW2 but now the rest of the world is catching up. Our boy Solbad right here, accepts to work at a sawmill for peanuts. A job none of our youngsters would do. Many of my friends from Italy flat out refuse more humble jobs. They have a degree (like everyone else) so they feel entitled to a big desk job. A friend of my family was looking for duders to work in his cheese factory - over 100 CVs from italians none took the job, they were simply doing the mandatory job apps to keep receiving unemployment. He had to end up hiring immigrants.

Anecdoctal evidence, of course. And the situation in Spain and France ecc... is maybe different. Yet lets look at some numbers:
Sapin youth unemployment: 52%
Spain percentage of immigrant population: 14% (one of the highest in Europe)

PS: Immigrants do not go to places were they will sit around without a job.



We have taken for granted that western europeans are somehow better, we have taken for granted that we should have things that east europe, russia, south america simply cant have - what really makes us better in todays world compared to them? Nothing? Then expect the lifestyles to become more equal, as theirs improves ours starts to worsen.

You can get mad at this and stomp your feet and hate the police and the government but the truth is: the party is over. Deal with it.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:17 am 
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Bunk, Gavjack Bunk wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19682049
Here's some more stuff about the situation they're in that you can ignore in favour of pretending this is about ipods.


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Whether by corruption - and there has been a great deal of that - maladministration, or pure bad luck, Valencia is littered with vanity projects that tell their own story.

The airport that has never seen a single plane land. The theme park built in a place where the summer heat rises above 40C (104F). The land bought at premium prices that is now worthless.


You know back in the days when you lost a war you got famine and misery.

Today we have no wars but the people can still collectively fail by making irresponsible decisions that ends up with jackasses running the country. Those mistakes are paid dearly.

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:20 am 
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Oh yeah and on the subject of SAVE DEMOCRACY

2008 voters turnout for Spain: 58%
(Italy has similar statistics)

what the fuck do you want back when you cant even be bothered lifting your ass to go to the ballots

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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:26 am 
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I agree with you completely, don't know why you are calling names like motherfucker tho you seem to be the "mad" one m8.

Now, the situation being what it is, is it fair to put the heavy loss induced by decades of binge drinking on the people, to avoid any cut for banks, politicians etc? Fair to say "we don't pay you anymore, the interrests of the debt must continue to run" instead of finding a compromise like "the debt will be repaid but the interrests won't"?

It's not a cut on the privileges people acquired through time, it's asking them to pay for the deeds of their ancestors, politicians, industries etc. Gobbins.

Anyway game is over in Greece. We'll see soon enough what ensues.

About the great Democracy, local elections have just been delayed by one year by our great President who knows his party will lose them badly. This is so grotesque.

I'll feel better when I'm in land and stop reading news really, holidays were so fucking good away from internet vOv


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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:30 am 
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Oh and btw I think you misjudge me.

I'm against socialism, I'm very liberal and I don't protest or riot. I could care less about Ipeds and shit, would prefer to pay for health insurance etc. myself and not being spoonfed and having everything regulated by the state like everyone else here (tho being a worker I pay for at least half a person more than myself, maybe that's why I don't like socialism)

But I hate corruption and state violence, I understand those people that's called maybe compassion.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:31 am 
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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
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 Post subject: Re: EUROPEAN PPL RALLY NOW
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:54 am 
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nah this is actually interesting rather than be "lol religion" etc :D

personally I just ignore most foreign news because I cba. its sad, but really it just makes me feel bad knowing shit going on elsewhere i can do nothing about. ignorance is bliss. anyway if the country goes to hell I'll just move to australia, or another warm country and live off fishing and killing seals and roos with my knives for food.

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