TD hurricane... mate, any BC can orbit you at 500 and you will miss. The two medium neuts on the cane will likely fuck you up in no time

ok so now that chunky has posted... anyone got a problem with this fit?

yes

i dont see how chunky has said anything revolutionary, in fact his problems have been outlined by pretty much all of us, the fact of the matter though that this ship has much the same vulnerabilities as a maelstrom, so saying its bad because it will have trouble tracking something close up is pretty stupid. and lets face it any active shield tanker is gonna have problems with neuts.

secondly the point of this setup is to bait the kind of fights that you cant get out of a maelstrom, preferably something in your optimal with ships that wont do enough damage to crack you or have enough tank to last too long against you.

but i guess if a mael is obviously so much better that should be the ship of choice as youll probably get the most people engaging you!

You have mentioned the problems but passed them to the side as if they are not that much of a nuisance (especially the cap).. they are and you are literally retarded. Go fly it and stop playing with EFT, so fucking dumb.

You have this idea that you're going to find a small gang made up only of recons. (also in low sec due to crystals and the recons also have to be retarded to die to this) If they have absolutely anything else with them (and they will) you're going to diaf.

edit: Before 'but a mael...' a mael is vastly more resistant to neuts.

ITT we dictate range in a no-scram no-web no-prop no-neut apoc.

ac/guns off apoc



laser apoc



mael



the point is not to dictate range via webs/prop but by deception. youll get fights with stuff that might want to chill in your range hopefully wont have the dps / neuts to crack you fast and wont have the tank to last many volleys.

with this setup you can pretty much jump into the same camp you would consider taking on in a mael / rokh have more people be eager to fight you, hopefully more people ready to chill in your optimal and more interesting fights...

but i guess considering how much of an issue the cap and the tracking are on the mael... sorry apoc... it is probably best to leave the pvping to munky chilk.

Nice faction mods, t2 rigs and 1mill a pop cap boosters on an apoc but w.e

Basically it's not like your non-stop boosting anyway. The problem is when you're out of cap on the apoc under neuts you're going to literally be sitting there with your thumb up your ass trying to take pot shots with your lazors while at the same time using that single 800 cap booster to also run your x-large shield booster.

The mael on the other hand will continue to shoot and if using a dual shield boost amp set up (which is why people use them..coz of neuts) it'll have a much higher survivability rate even under neuts


Cap booster 800GJ - Shield Booster usage 400GJ - 8xMega Pulse Laser 2's - 320GJ Per Group Shot. Enjoy your 1 shot with 1 shield boost every 12 seconds.

tl:dr: The fact you won't be able to shoot your fucking guns is the problem retard. ( As well as very shitty tracking etc )

ITT we +rep chunky

last i checked 15 x 8 was actually 120... with a regen of 80 cap a sec in an apoc =S

jesus christ you talk so much shit out of your ass.


your problem is you cant get your head out of your ass long enough to realise the your entire point of this being NOT AS GOOD AS A MAELSTROM

is exactly the reason it stands to get you better quality fights than a maelstrom.

of course your fucking stupid as shit and i suspect the next thing i hear come out of your mouth will be "but you should use a maelstrom"

fucking retard.