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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:22 am 
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who cares who is the better person, murder is the worse crime. you shouldn't punish bad persons, you should punish bad actions.


which is why the death penalty should be abolished.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:28 am 
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Morel Nova wrote:
ThrashPower wrote:
who cares who is the better person, murder is the worse crime. you shouldn't punish bad persons, you should punish bad actions.


which is why the death penalty should be abolished.

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We punish bad persons all the time.

1: People taking drugs in America go to jail for years even though their actions hurt no one. (I'm really not trying to open this can, but the argument kinda works... at least for those drug addicts they actually hurt no one)

2: We also stop (at least in australia) pedophiles who have served their time in prison, from leaving prison because they're deemed to be dangerous. Isn't this punishing a bad person... for being a bad person?

3: If you don't take these two points, think about the fact that when sentencing judges are supposed to take into account the 'protection from society' as well as punishment, rehab etc. So if we can show a rapist is worse than a murder for society then you could possibly say we should heighten their punishment.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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We are discussing which is the worst crime, not the chance for repeat offense.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:37 am 
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ThrashPower wrote:
We are discussing which is the worst crime, not the chance for repeat offense.


Well yeah, we kinda said murder was worse because of its effects but that a rapist, imo, is a worse offender (at least in a lot of cases).

Anyway, death penalty should be abolished and replaced by the great justice handed down by otters man c/d?

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:42 am 
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welp, over here, the only basis for punishing someone would be (in)action. inclination towards crime (or assuming inclination towards crime) is not action -> no punishment.

// assessing someone's inclination towards crime is not a fact but a forecast (like the fucking weather) and the criteria for doing this were too vague, so the entire concept was ruled unconstitutional despite the populistic whine of "it's prevention not punishment" etc from the parliament.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:43 am 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:59 am 
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That movie had awesome potential and started out great but turned out to be utter shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:03 pm 
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Tropic9 wrote:
That movie had awesome potential and started out great but turned out to be utter shit.


i liked it,

thread now about your favourite JUSTICE characters of all time

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:06 pm 
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Chunky Milk wrote:
thread now about your favourite JUSTICE characters of all time


I already linked Death Note. otherwise lee van cleef avenging his daughter in for a few dollars more.



or prolly Rin in Blade of the Immortal, although its getting fuzzy who is really avenging who in the later volumes

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