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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:37 pm 
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derail before i could contribute to the discussion :negative:


Judge Dredd, Robocop & the Punisher all on the same page, thread just got good~




although I want to keep it to irl movie characters mostly,
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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:15 pm 
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was talking with chunky on ts about this.


in the eyes of the law the most serious offences are ones where you take away the liberty of another (thus the legal requirement of "beyond a reasonable doubt" in crim law) and of course murder followed by false imprisonment are the highest forms of this.

however in society i would say rape is defiantly the worse of the two. the reason is pretty simple, most murders are crimes of passion or :manslaughters:

sure there are some really violent murders which are worse than rape, but in general a rape where YOU ARE AWARE THERE IS NO CONSENT is a much more culpable act than killing your wife who was cheating on you with your grandpa.


this is highlighted by a tonne of "excuse based" partial defences like provocation, as well as some complete defences for stuff like self-defence and necessity, where your or someone else would have been in foreseeable peril should you not have acted as you did.

whereas there is really none of the same for rape, it is never acceptable no matter how sexually deprived you are to have your way with an unwilling person. (i guess duress would be an interesting defense for it? will have to chat with chunkster about this later.)



but lets face it... neither of them are exactly acceptable. i would just say that while a murderer is usually a once off crime, unlikely to repeat offend, rapists tend to stick to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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ps. justifiable homicide is also murder.

so you cant tell me that is worse than rape.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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minigin pls stop de-railing this thread and post your favourite character of JUSTICE

edit: decent post though m8, n1

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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if someone thinks rape is worse than murder then they are fucked in the head literally lololol

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 pm 
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so i checked an ausfag (NSW) murder definition and oh god what the fuck really
i suppose being from 1900 might be an excuse for such a clumsy heap of text but oh god

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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Australians seems to take rape more seriously than others, are there really that many aboriginals running around raping left n right ?

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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if someone thinks rape is worse than murder then they are fucked in the head literally lololol


yeh cos all those cop shows you watch are how the world actually is.


people who dismiss this as an easy question are looking at this on a really superficial level.




literally ask yourselves whats worse, raping the fuck out of some 10 year old who is crying, or drink driving and running over a 5 year old kid killing them.

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
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Minigin wrote:
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if someone thinks rape is worse than murder then they are fucked in the head literally lololol


yeh cos all those cop shows you watch are how the world actually is.

literally rape has been blown waaay out of proportion by the whole new feminazi fad thing going on

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 Post subject: Re: Rape or murder?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:45 pm 
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you are literally an idiot.


yeh rape is only seen as bad now cos of women trying to take over the world...


go finish school.

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