could you explain to me how decriminalising something is encouraging it? Keep in mind here, in the civilised world (Victoria) it's not illegal for kids between 12-16 to have sex with each other as long as they're within 2 years. So it wouldn't be decriminalising, it would be criminalising it.

btw who said the aim is to discourage teens from having sex?




alcohol is harmful. sex can go wrong at 13 and they don't have the capacity to do everything a 21 yo can. but you know what else? who the fuck am I or you to tell people how to live their lives?

One of my housemates had her mum explain to her what she needed to know about sex, got her the pill and gave her condoms. For her parents it was absolutely fine and they were happy for her to have sex. You're putting your morality onto other people. If parents want to protect their kids and stop them having sex they should, it's not the fucking justice systems job to do so. There's a reason they call it a 'free society' m8.

Your entire argument seems to be based upon 'if it's bad for you it should be outlawed and enforced by law'. Seriously, your arguments are great for why parents should be more active with their kids in these areas but to say when something is 'bad for you' that it should be outlawed & codified in law is retarded. Australia is already becoming a nanny state as it is, let alone to give the state more power to tell me how to live my life.

we would almost certainly have to bump up the legal age, because its almost become standard for 18 year olds to celebrate their birthdays at nightclubs past the age of 18.

why is it illegal for a 20 year old to sleep with a consenting 14 year old?

i dont know if you were paying any attention during duty of care and special relationships, but parents cant decide one day that it would be better off for their child to live in a freezer because its what the child wanted to do.



how can we even begin to tone back underage drinking / smoking / underage sex if none of them are recognised as wrong. first socially and now by the law?

the point isnt to prosecute, its literally just a statement.


to ask you a question, why is it illegal for a 20 year old to sleep with a consenting 14 year old?

'you are not the world'

forseeability of harm is pretty important. i suggest that the forseeability of harm of putting your child in a freezer for an hour and letting/encouraging/not discussing sex with them yada yada law jargon.


as a parent you would be pretty fucking reckless and stupid to let your children have sex between ages 12-16. i accept it can be hard to stop them, but some effort does need to be made.

and no matter how much you insist having sex at age 13 isnt wrong, it wont make it any more true. my great grandma had my grandma at age 14 and she suffered a wide range of really bad pysical problems both immediate and further down the line as a consequence of that.

ps. she was married at age 13 to a 20 year old. but hey... i guess if its socially acceptable... who are we to say its wrong.


and someone please try grapple with why its illegal for 20 year olds to fuck kids.