minigin is so retarded I'm mindblown.

society says its ok, logic says it isnt.


i guess we should side with society.




youve literally provided no argument to say that 20 yos are more culpable than 16 yos sleeping with 14yos just vaguely referenced some convenient talent you think you have with "reading" girls. you also make it sound like once girls hit 16 even if you can manipulate them it somehow becomes ok.


frankly thats fucking disgusting that you think age should be the thing that dictates who you can and cant manipulate. none of you have even bothered engaging with the core points of the argument you just make vague references to "its not actually wrong" and provide no support other than "well its obviously not" completely ignoring WHY we dont let 20 year olds fuck 12 year olds.

you also draw on your own very limited experience (most of which is fabricated in your own minds...) ive dealt with enough kids growing up (and i was able to read them HO HO HO) who tried to exaggerate and most of the time completely make up their sexual exploits. so i dont mean to sound cruel to any of you, but i think youve built up your sexual prowess a little much in your own minds and now you cant deal with someone telling you... "well hang on... theres pretty good reasons kids shouldnt have sex"

and who living in this society is willing to stand up and say sups... i dont agree that i should have sex until im mature enough, and i wont be mature or capable to deal with teh consequences until im AT LEAST COMMPLLEEEEEEETTTTTTTTEEEEEEE MINIMUMMMMMMMMM OF 18.

no of course is much easier to say "sup i like sex... ive been having it since i was 13, theres nothing wrong with me"

go be cool with the rest of the year 7s.

Minigin has a point than the manipulative ability of an individual is not defined by age, it's defined by the individual. A 16 yo could be many times more manipulative than a 20 year old of a different mindset.

That said this whol argument is completely subjective and incredibly stupid

minigin m8, a person is not their views -.-
it is so sad to read such negativity, i know you don't mean it : (

channel your masculine energy to do battle against the statements and views, not against people who express them, regardless of their sexual history.

if you want to stop the policy shit and think about law for a sec, i'll just add that age of consent is a brilliant mechanism because it supplements the crime of compelling someone to sexual intercourse, because a hard age limit gives an additional way for conviction in the cases where the lack of consent is difficult to prove. this is purely technical and imo what it comes down to - being easier to prove. the age limit itself is politics and thus not very interesting.

forgive me, back to latin and nightclubs

I just read this whole thread and the only thing I can put into words as to how it has turned out is

you are correct. i should not have even though it was in response largely to the same. and i would agree with your point about "finding" the rape but i also think there is more to it in terms of harm to children who have no way of dealing with it etc.

Subjective and incredibly stupid are the regulations arbitrarily saying whats right or wrong with no legal basis other than 18 is the age for voting and therefore it should be the right age for everything else. Who says 18 year old people are ready to vote. Maybe we should extend it to 25. 30? People start thinking at 18 but don't mature till later right?

Socially accepted conducts cannot be criminalized for no other reason than puritanism or you end up with retarded cases like sending someone to jail because he had sex with his consenting girlfriend, had a drink with his friends before being 21, etc.

Everyone drinks before 21, and 18.
Everyone fucks before 18 (unless you're a future 40yo virgin) Everyone. Its actually seen as unacceptable to reach 18 and still be a virgin. You're either a prude, in the women's case, or a neckbeard, in men's.
People go political before 18. Your opinion at 16, will be largely slanted towards a certain political archetype, due to your family background and education. At 18, it will be that very same political archetype you'll be voting for, just two years later. Most people vote for the same fucking party their whole life.

Trying to argue that at 18 you magically become an adult is absolute and utter bullshit.

to argue you are better equipped to deal with sex drinking smoking voting and the rest after 18(or simply more experienced/developed so as to not use an arbitrary number) is not living in a dream land. sorry mexican bro.


also incase you guys have missed this, ive never argued we should be strict on this, ive just said its pretty important to be able to present it for what it is, rather than some perfect wonderland of candy and chocolate rivers. and imo it is important for it to remain criminal (although loosely enforced by prosecutors) simply so that it remains on the minds of the people who can make changes. and so that its more than a bad joke when people say "ok maybe 13 is a little young to be having sex?"

the world doesnt need to be a place where not having sex before 18 is socially unacceptable, but you are all helping make it so.

newsflash, its always been unacceptable. always, in every single culture except for one. The Puritan Faggots in this shitty little island in europe who went off and colonized with even hardercore puritans America, and with their criminals Oceania.

Hi hello welcome to the Victorian era.

yah and in the victorian era it was also standard practice to have a bath once a year.

i guess we should conform, cos as long as its the way its always been its right.