i wouldnt expect you to understand... you know having not had my VAST and LENGTHY experiences :huehuehue: but i respect people who chose to stick to their guns in the face of a society built of chunky milks.

im not really sure how you can say making your own choice for good reasons and following through doesnt represent a trait i should find desirable?

wait do you mean it's proof that even if you hate doing something you'll stick to it. So even if you guys fall out of love you'll commit to staying, which is equally as retarded.

let me ask you something.


what would be your ideal partner?




also like i said i am not particularly desperate to rush it by a few years so i can say i got there first (or not last) lulz. it really doesnt concern me that much. i think the only person particularly worried about my virginity is you? i should warn you that while i am pro gay rights... i wont sleep with you chunky milk. you arnt the type of person i would consider.

The ideal partner thing is actually dumb. There's isn't such a thing, every girl I've fallen for has been completely different. Keeping in mind I'm falling for them, not their traits. Although these may make up some part of them, it still doesn't make up who they are, and it's who they are that I fall for.

I don't see it as about rushing into sex. In relation to relationships it's about sharing each other physically, I couldn't imagine not wanting to please my girlfriend both intellectually and physically, both make up a relationship in my opinion. It's a part of being human. in fact, it's one of the main things that separates a partner from your friends. The fact that you learn each other physically intimately.

just to clarify, we have worked through this whole virginity thing and worked out that it's actually pretty retarded yes?

we got to a point where you said being a virgin is to highlight traits such as showing that you can commit to things, fairly sure that's obviously retarded.

ive got another question...

does your girlfriend find you intellectually stimulating?

for my sake as a naive sheltered child can you go through it?

Btw mini I would argue that not only does staying a virgin not prove commitment because commitment in a relation isn't the same type of commitment as not having sex. Just like my commitment to study can't prove the likely hood that I'll commit to a relationship.

But also that staying a virgin isn't all that hard once you choose it anyway. You're literally not 'missing' something because you have never experienced it. The same way you can't be addicted to a drug without first having it. So I'd say the commitment to stay a virgin most definitely can't prove that you'd be committed to a relationship.

Furthermore I'd argue the opposite, that once you finally have sex you won't be or it's at least uncertain if you'll happy with just one person, unlike the person who has already done his rounds and knows for sure they're happy with one.

The problem for you here is that you can't really answer how you'd feel or how committed you'd be because you haven't experienced sex and as such can't know for sure how you'd feel, thus if anything your virginity highlights a lack of proof, or uncertainty as to how well you'd cope with commitment after actually had sex.

i think you downplay societies pressures greatly.

while i literally dont give a shit... i have a very close friend who wanted to remain a virgin for religious reasons. and this guy was pretty serious about it. he ended up sleeping with his first girlfriend who managed to talk him into it then she dumped him a few months later.

hes now off repenting or some shit.

i dont agree with the reasons he wanted to remain a virgin (namely hellfire) but i think they were very real and strong beliefs in his mind. and i think he couldnt resist the pressure placed on him. this by no means makes him weak... it is just indicative of what the world is like.



i disagree, i think someone who is so resolved on this matter is more likely to be the right kind of girl for me. not to mention i believe its very attractive to see someone completely boss mode their way through life not afraiding of what nobodies think.

again you take unrelated examples and relate them directly. the concepts of sex and relationships are as you already stated so intertwined that i believe taking sex seriously has a good chance of reflecting the same in peoples relationships (inc the ones they dont have sex in).

whereas studying because you want to gloat about your results or earn lots of money so you can con women into sleeping with you might not be on the same page in terms of commitment.



why exactly is it so obviously retarded again?