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 Post subject: Re: TIPS TO GET BETTER AT LIFE ANd STPO FAILING
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:00 am 
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Are you seriously comparing the platonic academy to some scrubbers doing a philosophy course.

Lmfao.

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 Post subject: Re: TIPS TO GET BETTER AT LIFE ANd STPO FAILING
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thats not a university tho, the first university came much later


Lol, are you really trying to argue on technicalities? The point is that it was a more formal setting to discuss ideas, which is the same way philosophy is taught in Uni today.

And yes I am definitely comparing, why wouldn't I?

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also philosophers back then were also often boss tier mathematicians and naturalists. i don't think the same applies today :iiam:

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Chunky Milk wrote:
admiral mariobros wrote:
thats not a university tho, the first university came much later


Lol, are you really trying to argue on technicalities? The point is that it was a more formal setting to discuss ideas, which is the same way philosophy is taught in Uni today.

And yes I am definitely comparing, why wouldn't I?


It's not remotely comparable to how 'philosophy' is taught today

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Shiroi_Okami wrote:
Chunky Milk wrote:
admiral mariobros wrote:
thats not a university tho, the first university came much later


Lol, are you really trying to argue on technicalities? The point is that it was a more formal setting to discuss ideas, which is the same way philosophy is taught in Uni today.

And yes I am definitely comparing, why wouldn't I?


It's not remotely comparable to how 'philosophy' is taught today


How so? People read up about what philosophers/people wrote before them, they come up with their own ideas, they discussed their ideas in a forum. AFAIK that's essentially what the Greeks did and it's what we did.

And Kim, it's nice to build some of these people up as if they're superhero's, but not all of them were boss mode, many of them were just people that questioned the norms of their times using logic. Something which hadn't really happened that much. But at the end of the day they're still just people and I doubt they were Einstein tier.

Socratese (iirc) was pretty cool though, apparently, he was really good at teaching people by getting them to go through their own internal logic to arrive at a conclusion that he was trying to teach them. Basically he would keep asking them questions so that they would have to explain things themselves.

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yea but back then ppl didnt know shit
now we know shit
you wont really come up with a great new idea that will alter how people look at the world
best philosophers can come up with these days is the reptile gov thing heh

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In relation to the ancient greeks, a lot of their praise isn't exactly because of the philosophies that they came up with but rather because they were trying to use logic etc in the first place to explain things. Most of their philosophies haven't really stood the test of time in terms of being correct but are intriguing as a starting point nonetheless. Saying that it is true that philosophy has lost much of its grandeur since the scientific method hit the limelight.

btw you'd be surprised how many different ways there are to look at the world m8er, especially once you do even a little bit of reading into neuroscience.

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Chunky Milk wrote:
Shiroi_Okami wrote:
Chunky Milk wrote:
admiral mariobros wrote:
thats not a university tho, the first university came much later


Lol, are you really trying to argue on technicalities? The point is that it was a more formal setting to discuss ideas, which is the same way philosophy is taught in Uni today.

And yes I am definitely comparing, why wouldn't I?


It's not remotely comparable to how 'philosophy' is taught today


How so? People read up about what philosophers/people wrote before them, they come up with their own ideas, they discussed their ideas in a forum. AFAIK that's essentially what the Greeks did and it's what we did.

And Kim, it's nice to build some of these people up as if they're superhero's, but not all of them were boss mode, many of them were just people that questioned the norms of their times using logic. Something which hadn't really happened that much. But at the end of the day they're still just people and I doubt they were Einstein tier.

Socratese (iirc) was pretty cool though, apparently, he was really good at teaching people by getting them to go through their own internal logic to arrive at a conclusion that he was trying to teach them. Basically he would keep asking them questions so that they would have to explain things themselves.


Their method was solely based on thinking and discourse, not sitting in a theatre listening to someone babble while not really paying attention and just marking down stuff that is relevant to the exam or whatever essay they have to write to pass the course.

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Dark Soldat wrote:
best philosophers can come up with these days is the reptile gov thing heh


Sad but true. Are there even any famous philosophers these days? Or is it just an irrelevant field now that physics and neuroscience are sufficiently advanced?

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slavoj žižek is prolly the only modern philosopher i could name, the guy who did the first video

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