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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:14 pm 
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Thanks for the reply, Chunky.

Yeah, I've been experimenting many Slicer fits, it's really an awesome ship, but hard to fit without pimping.
I still haven't found a fit that I really like, so I'll give prometheus' fit a try.

There's a few reasons why I decided to fit that fleet stabber like a vaga:
- A lot more agile, this fit is even more agile than a Cynabal without nanos/polys/nozzle joints, making it easier to hold a target (especially frigs), maneuver against gangs and get out of camps since I don't have a scouting alt.
- Same EHP, a bit less shield EHP, but more armor EHP. No kin/exp hole.
- Insane tracking, even with 425's. It does about 100 dps less than a vaga, but the perfect tracking compensates a little bit for it.
- Massively underrated and unexpected, I don't get blobbed as much as a Vaga and people don't want to get close because they think that I'm armor tanked.
So, yeah, it's pretty much a Vagabond with different pros and cons.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:19 pm 
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tbh 1st step complete, not raging that ppl said nasty things 2 u


edit: i only actually read intigo raging will prob read the actual content later


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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:29 pm 
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oh Chunky :?

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Don Pellegrino wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Chunky.

Yeah, I've been experimenting many Slicer fits, it's really an awesome ship, but hard to fit without pimping.
I still haven't found a fit that I really like, so I'll give prometheus' fit a try.

There's a few reasons why I decided to fit that fleet stabber like a vaga:
- A lot more agile, this fit is even more agile than a Cynabal without nanos/polys/nozzle joints, making it easier to hold a target (especially frigs), maneuver against gangs and get out of camps since I don't have a scouting alt.
- Same EHP, a bit less shield EHP, but more armor EHP. No kin/exp hole.
- Insane tracking, even with 425's. It does about 100 dps less than a vaga, but the perfect tracking compensates a little bit for it.
- Massively underrated and unexpected, I don't get blobbed as much as a Vaga and people don't want to get close because they think that I'm armor tanked.
So, yeah, it's pretty much a Vagabond with different pros and cons.


the major difference is the dps at range though. That 100 less dps than a vaga grows when you're sitting at 20km. Like you said though, the tracking would help somewhat against certain targets.

Go with what ched said. My advice is to try get into contact with someone in game and find out if there is a roam on. Showing that you can actually fly and then having someone post in here that you can will be a major plus.


yo intigo, it's not like theres not worse people in genos atm... i swear i saw a completely non-troll t1 fitted rifter with t1 ammo on the killboard :?

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:30 pm 
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show a n1 thread u posted

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:31 pm 
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Bai ZongTong wrote:
show a n1 thread u posted


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.as ... ID=1260696

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:42 pm 
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Chunky Milk wrote:
Bai ZongTong wrote:
show a n1 thread u posted


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.as ... ID=1260696


chunky make an app thread asap

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:49 pm 
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http://a.imageshack.us/img713/4764/17366773.png

and with some tracking:

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/531/46239643.png

I'm not trying to show you that you're wrong and that the fleet stabber is the new vaga, I just want to prove you that it makes sense to fit one like a Vaga and that it is better than one in some situations. I try to make those situations happen. I'm not an uber pilot or anything, but I try to take advantage of people's expectations such as "Fleet stabber = armor tanked".

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:56 pm 
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Don Pellegrino wrote:
http://a.imageshack.us/img713/4764/17366773.png

and with some tracking:

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/531/46239643.png

I'm not trying to show you that you're wrong and that the fleet stabber is the new vaga, I just want to prove you that it makes sense to fit one like a Vaga and that it is better than one in some situations. I try to make those situations happen. I'm not an uber pilot or anything, but I try to take advantage of people's expectations such as "Fleet stabber = armor tanked".


No doubt.
Still, your absolute best bet is to show you can fly so try join a roaming gang, it honestly shouldn't be that hard as randoms end up in gangs all the time. (if you can't get in one then.... :roll: )

edit: cbf getting into details about a nano SFI on a recruitment thread but your tracking graph is a little off imo as the vaga would generally not be running barrage. (Yes I know the SFI may also not)

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 Post subject: Re: Don Pellegrino
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:10 pm 
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these threads move so fast I never get to say anything before the person is in or out of corp :x

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