active shield apoc! for glory and other stuff.

Chunky Milk · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:38 pm

Minigin wrote:

why again am i readily engaging something with 2 heavy neuts?

my entire point was that you sitting here saying "its going to die to neuts" yes... it is... and ive said that... but this isnt far worse than a mael will die to neuts. if you want to try you can go set up your maelstrom and ill come rape you in my tempest.

THE ENTIRE POINT! and i say this again because you just gloss over it and go straight back to saying "oh but youll get neuted out therefore the maelstrom is better"

is that people who see an apoc in lowsec or where ever you happen to be doing something like this, are less likely to say "shiiitttttt someone dock up and get in a neut domi with friggin 50 heavy neuts!" allowing you to get fights. furthermore assuming something like a neut boat does arrive, i have no idea why you shouldnt just deagro at which point you arnt using cap on your guns... tank up and jump out.

but i guess the honor warrior in you chunky says you need to always have your guns turned on until you die~~~!

l2 use scanner know what you are fighting and when its time to gtfo. this fit will work.

Dark Soldat · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:39 pm

i had to resist the urge to empty quote chunky

Minigin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:48 pm

yah good point apoc is totaly not less threatening than a maelstrom, and you can easily tank neuts and have good tracking in a maelstrom, not to mention people will probably just line gates for you waiting to see what new wonders you can make a maelstrom do.

Chunky Milk · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:57 pm

Chunkys Educational Fitting Service for Minigin

Eve fitting is like a scale

In eve, generally when fitting a ship it's nice to fit it for as wide a scope of targets as possible whilst still containing the major strengths of the ship. We can call this the middle ground of fitting.

If you fit a ship too specifically so it absolutely owns certain ships (say 2% of eve) and can't fight much else you end up in a faggot fit.

Now, If you make a fit that not only cannot fight 98% of eve but furthermore can barely fight the other 2%, relying solely on them being absolutely retarded, then you have just made yourself a retarded fit. Guess which part of the scale your apoc resides on.

Minigin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:06 pm

yeh because saying the weak point of an active shield bs is tracking, cap and lack of tackle is like revolutionary and brilliant.

where can i find more of these pearls of wisdom.

Rhak Amharr · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:11 pm

I would never ever solo in this due reasons stated somewhere else in this thread. Mega Pulse without web can't really hit a BS orbiting at 500, which is really bad (not sure if the TE helps with it a bit, but the single TE isn't gonna do so much that you suddenly hit orbiting frigs). This could be good though with a Rapier, if the Rapier pilot isn't retarded. Your range means you can protect the Rapier from tackle etc, and you have 2 or even 3 webs. It won't really work otherwise. The sad thing is though, in 0.0 this would work far better than in lowsec, and it means risking Crystals for an Apoc. But well, to each his own I guess.

Also, Chunky, please. Even though you are right in general.. Please.

Chunky Milk · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:15 pm

If you take one thing away from what I've said it's this. You are relying on way too much to go right in order for this ship to work, it is this fact that makes the fit bad. I'm sure you'll find some retards to kill but overall it's still a terrible fit.

Minigin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 pm

breaking news, if things dont go right, this ship could be lost!!!!

id better inform the alt scout to be extra careful!

Don Pellegrino · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:07 pm

I like how you can tank a WHOLE 300 dps until your midslots burn (1 minute) under 2 heavy neuts. That sure is a good use of crystals and a faction booster!

And also, it doesn't fit.

Don Pellegrino · **Posted:** Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:11 pm

ITT, you get -repped for saying bad things about the excellent fit being discussed.

active shield apoc! for glory and other stuff.

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