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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains god damn latin]
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:22 am 
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literally when have i ever said we should ban sex and i expect people to stop having sex????


go find me the part i said that.... please........


how the fuck are you meant to educate people if its something that the mere suggestion it isnt completely safe for teens to do is met with mockery and abuse. and how is the chance of abuse higher with a 20 yo than a 16 yo? are we talking physical power or emotional? because if its emotional maybe we should start outlawing all "players" who target women who they believe they can emotionally suppress in order to take what they want from them? (or using their experience to hook up with less experienced partners)

i dont understand where you are getting this from at all.... wait actually i do... from society. which is also the thing suggesting children of 12 can sleep with each other and its perfectly fine.

and sex to kids that young IS inherently risky, to such a degree that parents encouraging their children to sleep around i imagine would be liable for all sorts of claims.

answer me if you think it would ever be acceptable for me to raise my 12-13 year old by saying "its socially unacceptable for you to get to 15 and not to have had sex. you better get out there" ?

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains god damn latin]
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:11 am 
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double edit: come on coms yo

totally gonna eavesdrop

// what i first thought was just a misunderstanding may indeed be a crusade fueled by a wasted childhood

so much negativity in this world :intigo:

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains god damn latin]
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:16 am 
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It's not to say that sex is inherently harmful though. It's just to say that given these sorts of situations the CHANCE of it harming someone is so much higher that the law is here is prepared to step in to avoid it.



It's not an off chance. The VAST MAJORITY of cases involving an adult are of a nature that involves great manipulation of power and abuse. The power imbalances are almost always far too great.


Your use of the word "CHANCE" and "VAST MAJORITY" implies that this is NOT ALWAYS THE CASE which means that you are INEVITABLY putting INNOCENT PEOPLE in jail. You can argue for statuatory rape and age limits but the argument you're using is retarded Chunky.

bolded and capsed the important parts.

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
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1h into the discussion, bestiality is finally mentioned
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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:15 pm 
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no I linked a bestiality link much earlier

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
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i must admit chunky's erotic story about the two fifteen-year-old girls who are straight A students and do sports etc was really really hot though
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listening to people arguing policy and morals suddenly becomes fun when they are over 9000 km away from you.

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
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m8 are you suggesting it wouldnt be fun if you were here?


australia meet this christmas... you better come.

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:42 pm 
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m8 just go and have fun with some girls and embrace their feminine nature, your instincts will guide you i promise. and when you feel that YES THIS IS WHAT I WANT and nature takes over, before you know it - something fucking weird happens. a lot of your resistance on this topic will have disappeared.

don't need some person named after violencing animals to fly between contintents for that.

(this is me saying i can't afford it, moving house etc p soon as well)

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:36 pm 
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why are we assuming that sex is the same act after and before consenting age. they are in my mind two separate acts. 1: sexual intercourse with a minor(under consenting age) 2: sexual intercourse.

there are different mens elements that can constitute culpability for both of them, but the act itself is not the same. no matter how much crap you guys spout about "just bodies rubbing"

i think i had this argument like 50 times with chunky, you cant say that liking sex is the reason 14 year olds should be allowed to do it.


no amount of "lol virgin go have sex and change your mind" will ever make any sense.

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 Post subject: Re: LAWYERING MEGATHREAD [contains massive amounts of :intig
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btw i considered another thing, you were discussing the actual harm (supposedly here being non-existent) being the factor that criminalizes actions.



lets say we do just completely drop the underage double rape, and go with all children above 13 can have sex with each other, where do we stand on pornographic material depicting 14-15 yos? assuming it was made by the two kids and not some business man seeking to abuse them to turn a profit.

you can have with or without the intent of distributing it i dont really care. is sexualisation of kids that young in society the right path?

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